Trick Flow 2v Heads Coming Soon! [Archive]

KenB

11-04-2008, 08:21 AM

<img src="http://www.modulardepot.com/tfshomenews.jpg" align=left>It was hard to keep this secret as long as we have, but now have the go ahead to spill the beans! Trick Flow is releasing a brand new 2v Modular head and it's what we've all be waiting on.

Some features of the new head:

Flows over 240cfm out of the box!

Intake valve is swaped with where the exhaust lash adjuster was. This allows much higher lift cams on stock shortblocks. The best news is, this modifcation was done and still uses a standard PI cam design so all the cams for the PI heads will work with these heads.

The cam towers bolt on. This means in the event of damage to one of the cam towers (oiling problem etc) they can be swapped out, this problem no longer trashes the whole head!

The heads are drilled to accepted both windsor and romeo valve covers!

Click below for more info and to get on the waiting list

KenB

11-04-2008, 08:21 AM

These heads will be available first quarter of 2009. They have already been on a development car for 6,000 miles so these heads are not just a concept, they are real.

<img src="http://www.modulardepot.com/images/tfshead1.jpg">

The demand for these heads are expected to be high. Final pricing has not been set but expect them to be competitive with fully loaded PI heads coming out of the top shops out there.

<img src="http://www.modulardepot.com/images/tfshead2.jpg">

To reserve your spot in line for a set, send an email to sales@modulardepot.com

No deposit is required. As soon as we have any further info on the heads you will receive an email. When they become available, you will have the first right to buy based on your position on our list but are not obligated. Get those emails in!

I'll have pics and a spreadsheet of flow numbers comparing these heads to PI and SVO heads.

<img src="http://www.modulardepot.com/images/tfshead3.jpg">

BIGDOGBIZKIT

11-04-2008, 06:50 PM

any idea on price ? I hope they are not over 2k

98GTStangconv

11-04-2008, 11:01 PM

those heads are freakin sweet!!!!

Aerosi665

11-05-2008, 01:04 AM

Where did the numbers go?

Frost2V

11-06-2008, 01:31 AM

what chambers are they going to be? how much compression will one have with stock pistons/ gaskets.

pika262

11-06-2008, 08:15 PM

cant wait to see the numbers with those heads and their intake combined

Sash

11-06-2008, 08:38 PM

any idea on price ? I hope they are not over 2k

what hi ask?????????????

DSmith

11-06-2008, 08:46 PM

Hope these pan out to worth the $$. Glad the market is opening up finally.

Rio96GT

11-07-2008, 10:09 AM

I sent an email to you 10/30 to be put on the mailing list. Do I need to send another email requesting to be put on the waiting list now?

KenB

11-07-2008, 10:57 AM

I sent an email to you 10/30 to be put on the mailing list. Do I need to send another email requesting to be put on the waiting list now?

No, same mailing list. No worries.

Ben99GT

11-09-2008, 11:57 PM

It kind of looks like the Honda i-DSi 2-Valve head, minus the extra spark plug.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l12/Ben99GT/idsi_model.gif

Korky

11-10-2008, 08:23 PM

Any idea? I imagine they will have a set of these at PRI??

blown96bird

11-11-2008, 09:36 AM

How will the lack of swirl dams affect the the driveability or emissions. How will it work with a roots type blower?

KenB

11-11-2008, 01:22 PM

The stock swirl damn is there because of the design and flow characteristics of the stock head. This design and resulting flow is most likely much different.

These will work with any combo. The 44cc chamber is about what a stock PI head is. So you really just need to think of these as a much better DIRECT replacement for ported PI heads. They are still working out the valve spring specs, but they will have the blower/turbo crowd covered.

Ken

SleepingGT

11-11-2008, 02:34 PM

now if only they would make a 30cc chamber so that a stock PI bottom end can be converted to take advantage of e85 on motor(11.3:1 cr)

Gregg@TFS

11-11-2008, 02:51 PM

now if only they would make a 30cc chamber so that a stock PI bottom end can be converted to take advantage of e85 on motor(11.3:1 cr)

Baby steps..... We just introduced the heads.

Ben99GT

11-11-2008, 04:42 PM

I can't believe they actually did, and made a real effort at it. I was expecting something like the SVOs for the first real aftermarket head, not these almost canted valve heads.

Hats off to Trick Flow. Almost makes me want to build a 2V and slap it in a Fox Body.

blown96bird

11-11-2008, 07:20 PM

I might put a set on a built motor with 9.1-1 compression ration with with the tork tek m112 blower setup using a 3 inch upper and 7 inch lower blower pullies. which is a 2.3-1 ratio. I don't know how much boost it will make probly around 7-9 psi considering I will be upgrading from 1 5/8 headers to 1 3/4 inch headers with 3 inch collectors

e5shea

11-11-2008, 10:58 PM

So would the Logan Motorsport intake fit? What's the most aggressive set of cams you can load on top of these with a stock shortblock?

blown bullitt

11-11-2008, 10:58 PM

really cant wait to get a set of these and see what they can do

slowgtnky

11-12-2008, 02:17 AM

I really am impressed that someone actually is offering a TRUE performance replacement head for the mod motor...hats off to trick flow...if they are anything like their other heads then these things are going to be the thing to have...

Yellow02GTauto

11-12-2008, 02:29 AM

Since the intake valves are relocated and with the 1.84 valves....is there going to be a problem with PTV with a flattop piston or a -4cc dish cobra piston........I would like to keep my VT stage II cams.....

"ED"

Gregg@TFS

11-12-2008, 09:08 AM

So would the Logan Motorsport intake fit? What's the most aggressive set of cams you can load on top of these with a stock shortblock?

The intake ports are in the same location so it should fit no problem. From what we have seen so far you can go well over .600" lift with a stock short block.

Aerosi665

11-12-2008, 03:40 PM

The intake ports are in the same location so it should fit no problem. From what we have seen so far you can go well over .600" lift with a stock short block.

Wow! That is incredible news. I really hope these are as badass as the other trickflow heads. This really sounds like the 2v's key to a lot more power in our motors. Thank you trickflow!! Can't wait to see some solid numbers, I'm sure I'll be shelling out for a pair if these things eventually. :cheers:

e5shea

11-12-2008, 06:30 PM

The intake ports are in the same location so it should fit no problem. From what we have seen so far you can go well over .600" lift with a stock short block.

So am I reading that Comp 278's, or comparable stage III cam should fit if properly installled and degreed?

Sash

11-12-2008, 09:09 PM

Last I heard trickflow are developing two different camshafts four 2v motors....

qwikstang4me

11-14-2008, 01:23 PM

this is great to hear after i dropped a grand on motorsport 2v heads last week! does this head use a PI intake? I sure wish when i called TFS 2 months ago they would have hinted that they had something in the works!

KenB

11-14-2008, 01:28 PM

So would the Logan Motorsport intake fit? What's the most aggressive set of cams you can load on top of these with a stock shortblock?

SHould, any PI intake should fit.

KenB

11-14-2008, 01:29 PM

Gregg@TFS

11-14-2008, 01:33 PM

qwikstang4me

11-14-2008, 02:06 PM

are these heads CNC ported from TFS? what is the CR on a '96-98 gt? do i need a PI intake? who do i need to torture to get a set?

Gregg@TFS

11-14-2008, 02:15 PM

are these heads CNC ported from TFS? what is the CR on a '96-98 gt? do i need a PI intake? who do i need to torture to get a set?

The heads are not cnc'd. They do have cnc'd combustion chambers but the runenrs are not. You will need a PI intake and you should be around 10.0:1 in compression.

As far as the torture goes......GOOD LUCK!!!:jester:

qwikstang4me

11-14-2008, 03:35 PM

i know it premature but is there any plans for a top end kit (heads, cams, intake, gaskets, cam covers, etc..) from TFS similar to the one for the 5.0?

KenB

11-14-2008, 03:43 PM

i know it premature but is there any plans for a top end kit (heads, cams, intake, gaskets, cam covers, etc..) from TFS similar to the one for the 5.0?

I'm sure TFS will offer it this way at some point. RIght from the beginning well will over our own packages like that.

TGJ

11-18-2008, 06:52 PM

Ken,

Did you ever send out an email to those of us that emailed you to be on the list for these heads?

KenB

11-19-2008, 08:38 AM

Ken,

Did you ever send out an email to those of us that emailed you to be on the list for these heads?

No I haven't. It has gotten huge and I'm a bit worried about sending out one big email. Don't want to wind up on a spam list. So trying to find out how to avoid it. If you are worried, you can call Chris at the main number and he can check the list for you.

Ken

11SECGT

11-19-2008, 11:37 AM

if you go with the 44cc head what cc piston do you need to keep the stock compression ratio or a little lower for a blower car ???

KenB

11-19-2008, 12:55 PM

if you go with the 44cc head what cc piston do you need to keep the stock compression ratio or a little lower for a blower car ???

Same as you would with a PI head pretty much.

11SECGT

11-19-2008, 08:25 PM

which is ???

KenB

11-19-2008, 08:36 PM

which is ???

Probably go with a 19cc dish which should be around 9:1

15cc dish would give you about 9.4:1

11SECGT

11-19-2008, 08:43 PM

thanks for the info...

e5shea

11-20-2008, 11:41 AM

If the plan is to stay NA, what would be the most aggresive cam specs recommended on a stock bottom end.

KenB

11-20-2008, 02:51 PM

If the plan is to stay NA, what would be the most aggresive cam specs recommended on a stock bottom end.

That really depends on the intent of the car, how radical you want it etc. We can custom spec you a set with the heads based on your needs.

Ken

tjm73

11-21-2008, 10:51 AM

These heads will be available first quarter of 2009. They have already been on a development car for 6,000 miles so these heads are not just a concept, they are real.

If there is a car on the road with over 6,000 miles of development time, they have surely dyno'd this car. Surely information on this combo will be made public some time soon. When might we hear some real world combo results of these heads on the test mule?

KenB

11-21-2008, 12:07 PM

If there is a car on the road with over 6,000 miles of development time, they have surely dyno'd this car. Surely information on this combo will be made public some time soon. When might we hear some real world combo results of these heads on the test mule?

I don't believe it has been on a chassis dyno but has been on an engine dyno. Made 410 (don't have the torque number in front of me). That should put it in the 340+ rwhp range. This is on a stock shortblock with comp 270 cams.

ken

e5shea

11-21-2008, 07:20 PM

I don't believe it has been on a chassis dyno but has been on an engine dyno. Made 410 (don't have the torque number in front of me). That should put it in the 340+ rwhp range. This is on a stock shortblock with comp 270 cams.

ken

Word of mouth says that's with their intake on it as well.

Will be interesting to see what it would make at wheels with some cams ground as aggressively as possible.

Yellow02GTauto

11-22-2008, 08:28 AM

I don't believe it has been on a chassis dyno but has been on an engine dyno. Made 410 (don't have the torque number in front of me). That should put it in the 340+ rwhp range. This is on a stock shortblock with comp 270 cams.

ken

Sounds promising.......I take it that the CR was around 10 to 1 on that set up.........Should easily be good for 360 to the wheels on a good N/A street set-up......When I get my hands on these I will post up the difference from my current set up......I dyno 330/330 consistantly with my Patriot STG II heads.......11.2 CR with VT STG II cams....all the bolt on's......and is a street set-up..........can't wait to see what just a head change makes..........anything over 360 I will be extreemly happy!!!

"ED"

Ben99GT

11-27-2008, 12:24 PM

Sounds promising.......I take it that the CR was around 10 to 1 on that set up.........Should easily be good for 360 to the wheels on a good N/A street set-up......When I get my hands on these I will post up the difference from my current set up......I dyno 330/330 consistantly with my Patriot STG II heads.......11.2 CR with VT STG II cams....all the bolt on's......and is a street set-up..........can't wait to see what just a head change makes..........anything over 360 I will be extreemly happy!!!

"ED"

360 STD or SAE?

Yellow02GTauto

11-28-2008, 06:43 AM

360 STD or SAE?

360 SAE ......my last 2 pulls with my current set up is 331/331 SAE and 336/336 STD......I am optimistic but I think it could be more that 360.....with a 44CC chamber I should be close to 11.5 to 1 with the Cobra piston.....the patriot heads are around a 46CC chamber......and have an 11.2 to 1 CR....... havn't done the math yet but it should work just nice......I may just wait till the "R" version comes out......then again...maybe not..lol

"ED"

Ben99GT

11-28-2008, 06:27 PM

It would interesting to see how much they would be worth over a ported PI. 30 rwhp might be possible, mid-lift numbers looks pretty huge for a 2V head.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l12/Ben99GT/Trick_Flow_Heads.jpg

TGJ

12-02-2008, 11:48 PM

Ken,

Any idea on how many sets of heads you expect in the first batch?

KenB

12-02-2008, 11:56 PM

Nothing official yet but the number I heard was low. Not sure I can post the numbers. But my pre order is half of them. :)

That may change if I get alot of deposits. I think we have 5 already. Did you get the email?

TGJ

12-03-2008, 01:36 AM

tebone626

12-03-2008, 09:43 PM

dent off my deposite today. any word on a price yet? just wondering. can't wait to see how they do. will aftermarket valve springs work on these heads? thanks for any info.

dirtyd0g

12-05-2008, 02:18 PM

Pricing was finally set today. I'll let Ken fill you in on that. I was pleasantly surprised.
Alan

KenB

12-05-2008, 04:26 PM

From TFS:

The first head to be introduced will be a non power adder head in 38cc or 44cc chambers. It will have the powdered metal guides and the 90lb spring. The retail price on this head will be $1995.00!! We are still pushing to have these available in March/April time frame.

About a month or so after that head comes out we will be offering the power adder head that will feature bronze guides and the larger springs. I will introduce pricing on that head once we get it finalized. Should be soon.

Thanks again for all the interest in this new product!!!!

The list is growing quick so be sure to contact if you intend to buy!

Mustang03

12-05-2008, 04:54 PM

non-power adder head?? Never knew they would do that? What if you buy these heads, then 5 years down the road you get a turbo or blower, you can't use these heads then?

AR1Grdpoundr

12-05-2008, 05:09 PM

From TFS:

It will have the powdered metal guides and the 90lb spring.

what would be the limit as far as cams for this setup i currently use comp 262's cams but was looking at maybe upgrading to 270's or hitech stage 2's

KenB

12-05-2008, 05:48 PM

non-power adder head?? Never knew they would do that? What if you buy these heads, then 5 years down the road you get a turbo or blower, you can't use these heads then?

The only difference would be the guides and springs. So you could always update/upgrade those later. Using the powdered guides and lower seat pressure springs makes the heads less expensive and you don't really need anymore for a NA application.

AR1,

Those springs will be fine for either of those cams.

Ken

Sash

12-06-2008, 09:14 PM

I heard thy are developing cams to, any info on that?

aortiz10

12-17-2008, 10:00 AM

i wonder the specs on em out of the box.
the dss heads i have in my car come straight from dss with 50cc vs the trick flow 44cc so you may still have to spend more money on the trick flow once you get them

http://www.dssracing.com/cncheads.htm

gbrown8439

12-17-2008, 11:13 AM

Well, depending on your engine you may have lowered your CR and lost power by installing them unless you did that on purpose to be able to run more boost. If you are running NA you would need to have the DSS heads milled to keep from loosing CR.
As I asked you on another site where are their flow numbers?
At the bare minimum the TF heads are at least as good as the DSS (I'll bet they are better) and the TF still has more potential. Yours are ported, that's it your done. Buy the TF and you can still get them ported if you want even more flow.
I'm sure your DSS heads are nice but it's a little like comparing a kit car to the real thing. There just isn't a comparison.

Aerosi665

12-25-2008, 05:42 PM

These heads look fantastic! For a nitrous application would it be alright to run the "N/A" version of the heads? From my very basic understanding of nitrous I know it does not work like other forms of FI. It loves compression so using the smaller dish of the N/A heads would seem to be beneficial. Should I wait for the stronger springs and bronze guides of the "FI" heads or would the N/A heads be ok for a relatively small nitrous shot? (75-125 jetting using a ZEX kit)

blown96bird

12-26-2008, 06:45 AM

I did not know they were developing a head with bronze guides and stronger springs. I did order a set with the larger combustion chamber. I am planing on putting these heads on my roots supercharged 4.6. I am hoping to make around 450-500 rwhp. I am also making several fuel system and cam upgrades to get there.

Bradley Blaze

12-30-2008, 10:05 PM

Who do I contact to be put on the waiting list? Can these heads be used with a standard bore? I was wanting to upgrade the upper half of my engine, and hopefully get an aluminum block with forged internals next year (2010).

gbrown8439

12-31-2008, 07:48 AM

Call us here at 877-234-5551 and ask for Chris. He will get you a spot on the list.
You can use these heads with whatever bore you like and they would make a great upgrade for you.

qwikstang4me

12-31-2008, 02:24 PM

do you have to put a deposit down to reserve a set? how much?

gbrown8439

12-31-2008, 02:32 PM

$50 deposit guarantees you a spot on the list.
How many sets do you need?:)

ONELOWF

12-31-2008, 07:01 PM